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Suspension upgrade: what works best?

Postby gwailo_joe » Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:30 pm

Hello citiZens!

my '91 is getting pretty squeaky on the left front; bushings or some such I guess. So sooner or later I better take her into the shop, and if I'm going to spend $ on something so mundane, I'm thinking upgrade. Adjustable air ride shocks: worthy? Any other after market improvements you would recommend? I live in SF. and the streets are shite; so I DO NOT want a stiffer susp. (esp. with 18"s) Frankly i'd like the cornering of a Lotus with the comfort of an Eldorado; but physics gets in the way. Should i just go back to stock? . . Thanks for any info!
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Re: Suspension upgrade: what works best?

Postby oniham » Tue Jul 14, 2009 7:01 pm

buy a different car then, you aren't going to get what you want in the Z
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Re: Suspension upgrade: what works best?

Postby gwailo_joe » Tue Jul 14, 2009 11:53 pm

Sure. Wishful thinking on my part. . .got to accept the facts. But have to tell ya, compared to my previous cars: '81 Escort, '87 Pulsar SE, '77 Chevy Stepside and (my last car) '65 Bel Air. . .The Z is the shiznit. Until they put a back seat and T-tops on the 370 or I can afford the Infinity hard top convertable. . .I'm gonna keep my Z alive. :mrgreen:
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Re: Suspension upgrade: what works best?

Postby TheOrteganator » Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:29 am

Stock suspension, or a hovercraft, seem to be your best options.

You could get something like Tein Flex coils with the EDFC or whatever the electronic controller for the shock dampening is, but even on full soft just because of the spring rate they will always been considerably stiffer than stock suspension.
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Re: Suspension upgrade: what works best?

Postby riu » Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:46 am

yeah... you either need to just man up and deal with the fact that no matter what, driving a sports car in san francisco will be uncomfortable.

I don't like driving my car through SF with my coilovers compared to my regular route of newark to san jose, but it doesn't bother me too much, theres just a couple of spots here or there that are just ridiculous and i remember to be more cautious at. so if you want the handling just suck it up and deal with it.

If you just really want to have the comfort, which is what it sounds like you are really after, you can't have the handling you really want, nor do i think you'd take full advantage of it and drive your car to those limits if you had it, so just get oem replacement for whatever you need to get done.
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Re: Suspension upgrade: what works best?

Postby tougedrifter » Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:23 pm

hahaha, get KONI yellow and set it to stiffest setting, u will find it fun to ride in sf! lmao jk. I think stock have the best ride as far as suspension goes, but wont look as good. As far as stiff suspension goes, I have very stiff suspension, I hit my head on my roof a few times already, but that doesnt bother me too much since i got used to it
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Re: Suspension upgrade: what works best?

Postby ZSTYLN » Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:40 pm

I agree with Roger, if you're looking for comfort, replace everything with OEM, that's about as comfortable as you'll get! If you're talking about keeping your car, then to properly enjoy it you'll need to do some upgrades and unfortunately, its gonna cost you. My Z has 219k on it and I plan on keeping it until it takes its final ride. I'll probably do a TT swap, the suspension upgrades, exhaust and who knows what else, but either way, I'm gonna keep "Baby" and I know it going to cost and like I tell my wife, either I pay $40, 000 for a new car or I'll spend @ $10,000 and upgrade my car. Its just a matter of what you want to do to your car, but remember, its gonna cost you!
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Re: Suspension upgrade: what works best?

Postby tougedrifter » Thu Jul 16, 2009 2:54 am

ZSTYLN wrote:I agree with Roger, if you're looking for comfort, replace everything with OEM, that's about as comfortable as you'll get! If you're talking about keeping your car, then to properly enjoy it you'll need to do some upgrades and unfortunately, its gonna cost you. My Z has 219k on it and I plan on keeping it until it takes its final ride. I'll probably do a TT swap, the suspension upgrades, exhaust and who knows what else, but either way, I'm gonna keep "Baby" and I know it going to cost and like I tell my wife, either I pay $40, 000 for a new car or I'll spend @ $10,000 and upgrade my car. Its just a matter of what you want to do to your car, but remember, its gonna cost you!


lol, someone have more miles then me, I am impressed! and btw, a swap itself gonna cost you about 10,000 lol, so it is more like 15k for a good upgrade for your car xD, and that is if everything go smoothly. I don't have the budget to do the swap, thats why I am getting another car. I still love my Z tho!
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Re: Suspension upgrade: what works best?

Postby ZSTYLN » Thu Jul 16, 2009 5:00 am

I'm still kinda undecided about the TT swap, but I do want the other upgrades. I want my Z to look nice and feel right when I'm driving it. The TT vs NA thing, if I was younger, then it would definetely be TT, however, they say a JDM NA motor would give you 30 more horse power and I can live with that. Plus I'm starting to work on my 280ZX with my son, so as I put away funds for my upgrades, I also have to consider the funds to get my 280ZX in good shape. Although this is a Father-Son project, Dad will provide the majority of the funds and labor, Son will drive the car, he's always wanted it since he was 7 years old, he's 24 now.
All said, the Z car is a great driving machine and to keep it running right, lots of time, effort, and money will be spent!
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Re: Suspension upgrade: what works best?

Postby riu » Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:26 am

i say just keep it NA until the motor pops, and just pick up the most convenient motor for yourself. the motor swap is going to cost you an easy 8000 unless you go to one of the cheaper guys like Ravi who would give you the best rates and have just as good if not better work done.

15000 was roughly what frankie spent on getting his blown TT motor rebuilt to the specs he has it now, but of course buying the TT motor and converting the radiator mounts and getting the wiring harness and getting the TT transmission would take some more money on top of that. so 15000 will get you probably a good 400hp twin turbo.

You could just spend like 1000-2000 and get another NA motor put in. Save the rest for restoring the 280Z. I think you'll enjoy doing that more. I don't see you blasting down the freeway at full boost, I think you'd just enjoy a good NA with a few bolt on parts (not that engine mods on the NA add more than 15 hp)
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